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How long will Justin Jefferson stay in Minnesota? Kyler Murray, J.J. McCarthy can stop the clock from ticking
If the Vikings struggle again in 2026, things will get interesting with their superstar receiver
Ticket prices and streaming services are squeezing fans out of sports
Sports leagues like the NFL, NBA, and FIFA may be locking out fans and undermining their own business with high prices and too many streaming deals.
Trump sticks with Pulte for intel job as risk grows of lapse in spy powers
A lapse in a law that allows the U.S. to gather intelligence abroad grew more likely on Wednesday as President Donald Trump resisted calls from Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill to immediately name a permanent head of the nation's intelligence agencies.
NBA Finals 2026: Ticket prices for Game 4 plummeted $10K in recent days, more than Super Bowls, Taylor Swift concert
Tickets are now on sale for Business Report's Excellence in Health Care Awards
Tickets are on sale now for the inaugural Excellence in Health Care Awards, where Business Report will honor the leaders, clinicians and organizations strengthening care delivery across the Capital Region. Finalists and honorees will be celebrated at an awards dinner on Wednesday, Aug. 12, at the Crowne Plaza in Baton Rouge. The evening will bring […]
Agent's Take: Why Fernando Mendoza remains unsigned, and how Ty Simpson could factor in
Mendoza's contract terms are largely set. The sticking point is how and when the Raiders pay his signing bonus
Fútbol Fiesta brings World Cup watch parties and entertainment to El Paso Coliseum
Fútbol Fiesta is turning the El Paso County Coliseum into a World Cup fan hub July 14, 15 and 19, with giant-screen match watch parties, EA SPORTS FC 26 tournaments, live music, vendors, and a massive sticker trade.
Sports wagering revenue nears $300M since 2024 launch
With a third consecutive month of $11.5 million or more, North Carolina moved within $826,700 of $300 million in proceeds from legal sports wagering in May, two years after launch.
Too many free tickets and money left ‘on the table’: Here’s what consultants found when they reviewed Utah’s athletics operations
Utah athletics hired a consultant to review parts of its department last summer. Here's what they found, according to a document recently obtained by The Salt Lake Tribune.
Louisiana shop owner says inspection sticker law puts 20-year business in danger
A vehicle inspection shop owner said his business of more than 20 years is in danger of closing after a new state law eliminated inspection stickers.
How sky-high ticket prices, war & politics could impact the World Cup
The biggest World Cup ever starts this week. Laura Williamson, editor in chief of The Athletic, describes how sky-high prices, travel restrictions, politics and the Ebola outbreak are impacting fans. Williamson also discusses President Trump’s UFC event on the White House lawn. Ken Tucker reviews Kacey Musgraves’ album ‘Middle of Nowhere,’ which he says pairs well with the music biography ‘Gary Stewart: I Am From the Honky-Tonks.’
Nintendo was fined 35 million euros due to Joy-Con stick drift
In France, an investigation into Nintendo related to defective Joy-Con controller sticks has concluded. The outcome was not in the company’s favor.
U.S. Small-Business Confidence Ticked Down in May
The National Federation of Independent Business said that its small-business optimism index fell 0.6 points to 95.3 in May, remaining below its 52-year average of 98.0.
Why STAT is sticking with ‘health care’ as two words
Is it “health care” or “healthcare”? STAT readers had strong feelings.
Tickets, travel, politics, the USMNT and more: 100 things to know about the 2026 World Cup
From tickets to the trophy, presidents to prize money and everything in between, this is your one-stop shop for everything you need to know
Lyme Primer: How the New HHS Strategy Stacks Up To Science
Experts support targeting ticks but caution against the long-term use of antibiotics.
Schedule for the Reno Rodeo with entertainment, ticket and parking info
Dylan Scott headlines the Reno Rodeo kickoff concert on June 17; the Reno Rodeo is June 18-27
NYC mayor Zohran Mamdani to attend Game 3 with $1000 standing room only ticket
Science Museum Oklahoma offers free admission for dads on Father's Day
Science Museum Oklahoma invites fathers to enjoy free admission on Father's Day with a child's ticket purchase, encouraging family learning and exploration.
WAMU's week ahead: D.C. Council tackles a delayed budget, preventing ticks from biting into your summer and the politics of streateries
This week WAMU will be checking in on the D.C. Council's first vote for the FY2027 budget, responses from health officials to increased tick bites across the D.C. region and the politics at play this summer around streateries.
Trump to Make Game 3 Finals Experience Highly Unpleasant
Thanks to the president’s Game 3 attendance, finals ticket-holders must deal with heavy security Monday night. A watch party outside MSG was canceled.
Look at Truss Club, other Brewers stadium improvements coming soon
Renderings of the Truss Club, a new experience for high-end ticket holders at American Family Field, as well as a new beer garden for all fans.
Hawks, head coach Quin Snyder reportedly agree to multi-year contract extension
Quin Synder is sticking with the Hawks for years to come.
NBA Finals ticket prices: Game 3 continues to drop after Knicks' Josh Hart laments 'ridiculous' cost for fans wanting to attend at MSG
'Sunday Ticket' Lawsuit Could Be Heading to U.S. Supreme Court
The NFL's "Sunday Ticket" package has long been a fan favorite. The package, previously on DirecTV and now on YouTube TV, allows NFL fans to watch every game, no matter what local market they are in. For fans of teams that play in a different city, it's a godsend. It's the best way to keep up with ...
Confirmed Entertainment Showtimes for Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party
Disney has confirmed the entertainment showtimes for Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party, the special ticketed event that takes place on select nights at Magic Kingdom this fall.
Political group launches anti-Trump ad campaign in Nebraska
“Home of the Brave” launched the ad campaign Monday, featuring video and billboard advertisements on how President Donald Trump’s policies hurt affordability.
Who, exactly, is this World Cup for?
The great paradox of this historic, expansive event is that more countries are competing but fewer fans can afford tickets.
J.T. Poston wins the Memorial Tournament, punches ticket to U.S. Open after marathon round to avoid 36-hole qualifier
Louisville Kings punch their ticket to the UFL Championship
In their first UFL season, the Louisville Kings will be playing for the UFL title.
2 more people, a business plead guilty to defrauding Tickets for Kids charity, officials say
Based in Blawnox, Tickets for Kids gives kids free access to arts, cultural, educational and athletic experiences.
J.T. Poston wins 2026 Memorial Tournament, punching ticket to U.S. Open after marathon day
Knicks' Josh Hart laments 'crazy' NBA Finals ticket prices for fans wanting to attend Games 3 and 4 at MSG
Missed out on Alan Jackson tickets? NBC will air his final Nashville show
Fans who missed out on tickets to Alan Jackson's final concert in Nashville will still get a chance to see the country music legend's farewell show.
Missed out on Alan Jackson tickets? NBC will air his final Nashville show
Fans who missed out on tickets to Alan Jackson's final concert in Nashville will still get a chance to see the country music legend's farewell show.
Photos: How public health officials track Colorado’s tick populations
2026 is a bad tick year. Colorado is taking a more hands-on approach to studying them.
Animals have personalities. Here’s what shapes them.
From shelter dogs to stickleback fish, the forces that shape animal personality are surprisingly familiar.
How to keep ticks out of your yard
Skip the essential oils and try expert-recommended tick prevention methods to make your yard less attractive to ticks.
Confusion, worry cloud Baton Rouge auto service businesses after state axes inspection stickers
Businesses said they've received “zero communication” from the state on when to stop providing the safety portion of the inspection.
World Cup 2026: USA pioneer Desmond Armstrong and his legacy
When Desmond Armstrong faced the media at the World Cup in 1990, the first question he got was one that would stick in his mind for the wrong reasons.
NBA Finals ticket prices: Cost for Games 3 and 4 at MSG skyrocket as Knicks take 2-0 series lead over Spurs
Victor Wembanyama Refuses To Sign Partnership Deal With Coca-Cola
San Antonio Spurs star Victor Wembanyama isn't afraid to stick to his beliefs, that's for sure. Prior to Game 1 of the NBA Finals, Wembanyama declared that he's not fazed by all the pressure that comes with playing in the championship series. He told reporters, "At the end of the day only 20,000 ...
Tarik Skubal's Sunday start sparks buzz in west Michigan
Tickets are sold out for the Whitecaps' game Sunday at LMCU Ballpark.
‘What else do we have?’ Maine Democrats signal they’ll stick with Graham Platner, some with regret
Graham Platner is still likely to win Maine’s Democratic Senate nomination in Tuesday’s primary — but some voters in the state who once were excited by his campaign now say they’ll hold their noses while casting their ballots after a series of negative reports about his personal behavior.
Here's how you can win tickets to the “Heated Rivalry” season 2 premiere
The show is giving away two tickets to the big event next year.
Paul McCartney says feud with John Lennon before the Beatles broke up felt 'like sticking little daggers in me'
Former Beatle Paul McCartney looks back on feud with bandmate John Lennon over management disputes before the band broke up.
E-bike safety; lung cancer treatment and prevention; keeping CMA Festival attendees safe; plus other stories with Vanderbilt Health sources
WKRN News 2 interviewed Jeffrey Upperman, MD, FACS, Professor and Chair of the Department of Pediatric Surgery and Surgeon-in-Chief of Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt, about e-bike related injuries following the recent death of a Brentwood High student and a proposal to require safety training before students could ride a bike on a school campus in Williamson County. Fabien Maldonado, MD, MSc,Professor of Medicine and Thoracic Surgery, was on WTVF News Channel 5‘s live studio show, “Openline,” with host Ben Hall, to discuss lung cancer, treatment and prevention. WSMV’s “Today In Nashville” program hosted Vanderbilt LifeFlight paramedic/flight nurse practitioner Tony Smith to talk about safety for the CMA Festival. The New York Times reporter Carl Zimmer interviewed James Crowe, MD, Director of the Vanderbilt Center for Antibody Therapeutics, for a story about the race to find vaccines and treatments as Ebola spreads. The Vanderbilt Health News release about the pilot clinical trial conducted by Vanderbilt Health and Cumberland Pharmaceuticals Inc., that confirms the safety of ifetroban and supports the further development of the drug to prevent cancer metastasis, was picked up by Reuters, Stock Titan,and others. Women We Admire has named Lee Ann Liska, President and Chief Operating Officer, to its list of top women leaders of Nashville for 2026. Radiology Business, Aunt Minnie, Bioengineer, and Imaging Technology News covered the study from Consuelo Wilkins, MD, MSCI, the Mildred Thornton Stahlman Professor in Rural Health and professor of Medicine in the Division of Geriatric Medicine, that found Black and Hispanic people, while known to be far more apt to have dementia, are significantly less apt than other racial and ethnic groups to show Alzheimer’s pathology on brain scans. STAT News interviewed Deva Sharma, MD, Transfusion Medicine & Hematology-Oncology, for a story about more patients requesting unvaccinated blood and what it means for the medical system at large. Yahoo! Health reporter Korin Miller interviewed Gitanjali Srivastava, MD, Director of Obesity Medicine, for a story about how semaglutide and tirzepatide compare. William Schaffner, MD, Professor of Preventive Medicine, was quoted by several news outlets about public health issues, including: NBC News (new COVID vaccinations); Medscape (pneumonia and sepsis); and CNN (protection from contagious viruses). Shelbyville Times-Gazette is repurposing Jessica Pasley’s July 2025 Vanderbilt Health News story on tick-borne illnesses as a front-page story.
The Afghan Whigs tour tickets just dropped: How to secure eye-catching deals for limited U.S. run
With only 12 shows scheduled for the U.S., fans need to focus on securing tickets as soon as possible as the supply is expected to dwindle quickly.
Scientists Thought They Understood Evolution. They Were Wrong.
Beneficial mutations happen quite frequently, but the world changes too fast for them to stick.
Pennsylvania health officials tracking red meat allergy caused by lone star tick
‘The Odyssey’ slams AMC's website as fans try to get tickets
If you want tickets to Christopher Nolan's epic ‘The Odyssey,’ you'll need to get in line. On Thursday, wait times on the AMC website reached an hour as hopeful moviegoers scrambled to secure seats.
Rare type of Lyme disease found for the first time in New York
The bacteria, which can cause more severe symptoms, have only been detected in the upper Midwest.
Amazon’s new plan for games: James Bond and AI Snoop Dogg
Amazon is trying a few different things to see what sticks.
Arts and Entertainment
Chicago Teen Edition June 5-14 Curtain 440 and director Angela Miloro-Hansen will present “Chicago Teen Edition” with a group of talented singers and dancers from several area high schools. Performances will be Fridays and Saturdays at 7:30 p.m. and Sundays at 3 p.m. at the historic Geauga Theater on 101 Water St. in Chardon. Tickets
Belkin’s new Joy-Con grips also boost the Switch 2’s battery life
The Charging Grip sticks a 10,000mAh battery to the back of the handheld while making the Joy-Cons easier to hold.
Google Photos on Android finally gets this handy feature months after iPhone
Google Photos on Android is finally getting the saved "Stickers" album in the "Collections" tab six months after it rolled out on iOS.
Parking fund has $800,000 in unpaid tickets, downtown business owners say make it free
With the Parking Commission's inability to enforce parking tickets in Clarksville, the enterprise fund has built up a deficit of more than $800,000.
Google Photos for Android rolling out saved Stickers folder
After introducing custom stickers in February, Google Photos for Android now saves and stores everything you've created in a folder.
Monetary compensation becomes key sticking point in Iran deal as Trump bristles at comparison to Obama agreement
One of the key sticking points remaining in negotiations between the US and Iran centers on monetary compensation, as President Donald Trump is eager to strike a deal that will be viewed as superior to a prior agreement inked during the Obama administration, a US official familiar with the talks told CNN.
SIFF is bringing back 70mm screenings — and it’s starting with a big movie
Tickets for screenings of “The Odyssey,” the first film shot entirely on IMAX film cameras, at SIFF Cinema Downtown go on sale Thursday morning.
Changes coming to several polling sites across Erie County
Primary Day takes place June 23 with early voting happening June 13 - 21.
Trump Suggests Vance and Rubio Should Run Together in 2028 Election
President Trump said Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio should split a ticket, without mentioning who should be at the top.
The Latest: Trump keeps immunity from tax probes while scrapping $1.8 billion compensation fund
Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said the Trump administration has definitively scrapped a $1.8 billion fund to compensate President Donald Trump’s allies, but the White House is sticking with the part of the deal that permanently drops tax claims against him
The Latest: Trump keeps immunity from tax probes while scrapping $1.8 billion compensation fund
Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said the Trump administration has definitively scrapped a $1.8 billion fund to compensate President Donald Trump's allies, but the White House is sticking with the part of the deal that permanently drops tax claims against him.
The cult of objectivity has broken consciousness science
With 22 competing theories and no consensus in sight, the science of consciousness is lost. In this exclusive IAI interview, Berkeley psychedelics researcher and bestselling author of a new book on consciousness Michael Pollan insists that even though consciousness lies beyond traditional forms of scientific investigation, we should resist becoming dualists who see it as something radically different from ordinary stuff in the world. Instead, he makes the case for reimagining science itself: it must stop reaching for objective descriptions of physical reality, and instead embrace subjectivity as the indispensable core of all inquiry. Alasdair Craig: How did your experiences with psychedelics get you interested in consciousness?Michael Pollan: One of the things that happens on psychedelics is that they foreground consciousness. What formerly seemed perfectly transparent and ever present—and yet, non-existent, as water is to fish—suddenly you see it. The metaphor I use in the book is that psychedelics sponge the windscreen. Suddenly you realize: wow, there’s a windscreen, there is this phenomenon that’s mediating my relationship to reality. This is not an unusual realization on psychedelics. I think a lot of people are called to think about consciousness after psychedelic experiences. So that was the proximate inspiration for A World Appears: A Journey Into Consciousness (2026).And then there was a more specific way in which psychedelics influence the book. That was a particular experience I had on psilocybin. I had the sensation that the plants in my garden were conscious and returning my gaze, with their own point of view and agency, and I got curious as to how to evaluate an insight like that. I mean, what’s the truth quotient of insights you have on psychedelics? And I was reading William James—who, of course, wrote beautifully about mystical experience—and he said, we can’t judge the metaphysics here, but we should pay attention to two criteria: (1) How useful is it to think this is true? He was a pragmatist, of course. And (2) can we subject it to other ways of knowing to validate it? Because maybe we should treat these insights as hypotheses. And that’s kind of how I approach psychedelics, as a great generator of hypotheses, but they need to be tested against other ways of knowing. And so that led me down this long path exploring the science of plant intelligence and plant sentience.AC: I love your phrase, “smudging the windowpane of conscious experience.” So do you now start to think, actually, even when I’m not on psychedelics, I’m just seeing a screen all the time, which is not reality, but rather is my conscious experience, behind which reality is hidden?MP: Well, you know, not when I’m brushing my teeth and making breakfast! But yes, in meditation, certainly. I mean, one of the things you realize is that my experience happens to be this way now, but it could be another way. And many things can affect it. My morning coffee changes the screen in various ways, sharpens certain things.___The only tool we have to understand consciousness is consciousness.___There’s this wonderful metaphor in Aldous Huxley’s book, The Doors of Perception, where he thinks we channel consciousness, and that what the brain does is edit it, and there’s a reducing valve. And psychedelics open the reducing valve wider. I don’t know that I’m ready to buy into the idea that consciousness exists outside brains, but I do love that metaphor because there are times when you are more conscious than others. I know I’ve switched from window pane to valve, but you know, a camera aperture can open wider or narrower. And I do have a sense of that. I have a sense of when I’m being less conscious, and when I’m being more conscious, by which I mean, you know, more present, taking in more sensory information. So when you start thinking about consciousness as a matter of degree, that changes things also.I think when we scroll on social media, obviously, we’re conscious. But minimally so, because we don’t have to generate our own thoughts. We’re basically taking these little hits from other people and thinking their thoughts.The process of writing this book made me kind of relativize everyday consciousness as just one type, which is exactly what William James said. Normal consciousness is one type, separated by the flimsiest of screens from the other types.AC: If we stick with the metaphor of the smudge on the window that you get when you take psychedelics, it seems like we’re saying that consciousness has become like an object that you’re looking at, right? You’re looking at the smudge and that just is consciousness. But sometimes we’ll talk about consciousness as a state that you’re in, rather than an object you can perceive. You’re either conscious or you’re not conscious. So it’s difficult to really know what sort of thing we’re talking about when we talk about consciousness, right?MP: Yeah. When you say that consciousness is an object, what’s the subject? Consciousness also? The only tool we have to understand consciousness is consciousness. So we’re in a closed loop and when we get a perspective on consciousness, we’re not achieving any distance from it. That’s one of the problems with studying consciousness. Science is predicated on an objective, God’s eye view of things, and you never get that. There’s no such thing. SUGGESTED VIEWING The brain filters consciousness With Àlex Gómez-Marín But, yeah, there is this sense, I think, that consciousness is something you can approach. Certainly, when you’re writing and trying to recreate a conscious experience, it’s a fiction, but you’re standing back from it, and looking at it. But there’s no real subject-object distinction.AC: That’s so interesting, because when philosophers start talking about consciousness, they often talk about what they call “qualia”, which is their word for the felt experience of, say, the color red. And I think that way of speaking often makes us think of the qualia as an object, which you can see out there: the redness of red. But, as you say, we also want to collapse the subject-object distinction when we talk about consciousness. So there’s something strange going on here…MP: Oh, yeah, there are many strange things going on! *AC: Let’s talk about the varieties of consciousness. Apart from perceptions, there are, pains, emotions, thoughts, and so on. What is it that holds all this diversity together so that they all count as instances of consciousness? What is it that they all have in common?MP: Yeah, that’s a really good question. I mean, there is sensory information, right? Which we perceive coming from the world outside ourselves. And then there’s internal information, which is what’s called interoception. And this is very important too. This is where feelings come from—what are sometimes called homeostatic feelings—that are intended to get the brain to keep us in these narrow ranges of temperature and glucose and so on. That’s a very important part of consciousness. And according to some researchers, who I think are probably right, this is where consciousness begins, with these very primal feelings, like hunger and thirst and warmth and itch, and things like that. And then there’s this third thing, which is our thinking about thinking.And what holds all this together is, I think, the sense of self. Consciousness generates a self: it is probably an organizing principle. All this stuff is happening to the self. It’s a construct, I think, but it is very useful. It can connect all these different streams of consciousness to a single being or a place, metaphorically speaking.* AC: The first half of your book is about the science of consciousness. Is consciousness just another thing, like black holes or the origin of life, which we don’t yet understand, but which we should have every hope that science will one day get to the bottom of, or is there something special about consciousness that makes this unlikely?MP: It depends how you define science. As we define science now, it’s going be very difficult. Science since Galileo has had a set of rules or assumptions, which is that the proper remit of science is to deal with the objective, quantifiable, third-person world. And the physical sciences have done amazing work under that set of limitations. Galileo—for tactical reasons, not for philosophical reasons—said science should not deal with the soul, which at the time was what consciousness was considered to be. So what is subjective, what is qualitative, what is first person, we’re going to leave to the church, he said. And this was a good agreement, and it probably kept many scientists from getting burned at the stake. But it leaves science in an awkward spot, now that it wants to venture into that territory of qualities, of first-person experience. And I don’t think it has the proper tools. I think it will have to add to its toolkit in some way, and find a way to bring in phenomenology, or lived experience and introspection, which science is usually dismissive of.The challenge—we alluded to it earlier—is that the only tool you have to study consciousness with is consciousness. And what I mean by that is, the whole scientific enterprise is a manifestation of consciousness. As much as scientists like to flatter themselves with this idea that they attain a godlike perspective on what they study, when it comes to consciousness, there’s no such thing. And it’s fine for all the things you can step outside of and study from that perspective. But two areas it won’t work are consciousness and cosmology.___It could be that we live in this anomaly of not believing nature is conscious. And maybe psychedelics are teaching us something we’ve forgotten.___With cosmology, too, you have to study the universe from inside the universe. It’s not that cosmologists haven’t made progress. We know a lot about the age of the universe and expansion and things like that. But we can’t penetrate what happened before the Big Bang. We just don’t have the tools because we can’t stand outside.The fact that there are 22 full-scale theories of consciousness tells you all you need to know: we’re kind of lost. And I was surprised to find that we are more lost than I thought we were when I started this. I thought that there’d be leading theories, or that we had experiments that we could conduct that would nail some of this down. And the fact is, we don’t.So, I don’t know if science can solve it. But, of course, we can change the rules of science. A really influential book for me was a book called The Blind Spot, by two physicists, Marcello Gleiser and Adam Frank, and a philosopher, Evan Thompson. It’s a reminder that science is a social practice. It’s organized in a certain way and it can be organized in a different way. But it has this huge blind spot at the center of it, which is its failure to recognize that it is a form of consciousness itself, and it doesn’t have a good way of taking account of lived experience.AC: On the one hand, I think you want to resist traditional dualism, which would say that consciousness is something magical, something supernatural, right? But on the other hand, you’re accepting that there is this division in reality between the stuff that you can investigate objectively and measure, and so on—the stuff that science has been good at finding out about—and consciousness, which, for some reason, you can’t objectively measure. Some would take this to suggest that the dualism is actually right. Is there a way of reconciling these two strands of your thinking?MP: To call it magical is full of value judgement. I mean, you could just say immaterial. The interesting thing is, I think, that intuitively we’re all dualists. And I don’t know whether that’s because we’re children of Descartes and other cultures are less dualist than we are. Or it may be because that’s how consciousness feels. It feels different than the body. It feels separate from the body. But I don’t think we should trust that intuition.AC: So let’s think about ways that science might be changed to get at consciousness. I suppose the starting point would be the way that you begin the second half of your book. You have this nice line from William James, where he says, “We now begin our study of the mind from within.” Could you give us some sense of the ways of studying the mind from within? What does this involve?MP: I don’t know what that science looks like. But one of the points I’m making is that it depends on the humanities. I found that I learned as much, if not more, about consciousness, from reading novels and poetry. There is a sense of the fullness and complexity of consciousness that you don’t get in any scientific account. I interviewed this stream-of-consciousness writer and I approached her as an expert on consciousness, and she is. So I think that dialogue is really important.I’m reading Ben Lerner’s new novel, Transcription. Just read the first page of this novel: it’s a man falling asleep on a train, going to conduct an interview, and there is the experience of being in the train, facing backwards, there’s the view outside, but there’s a reflection of himself through which he’s seeing outside. There’s the memory of dropping his kids off at school. All this is going on in one moment of consciousness. Scientists aren’t going anywhere near that. But I think it’s useful for them to think about. That’s where we’re trying to go: like, how does such a layered experience happen? You know, it also makes you wonder, could a computer ever do this? And it gives you some doubt.*AC: Before we get to computers, perhaps we could talk briefly about plants. How did you come to feel that they are sentient?MP: Well, it was a psychedelic experience, and it’s not unusual on psychedelics. In fact, there’ve been studies about how people become animists during psychedelic experience. Their belief in animism arises after a single psychedelic experience.You know, most scientists would say this is all a myth. But we have only 400 years of the age of enlightenment and science. Before that, we were animists, and if you go around the world, most indigenous cultures are still animists, and children are animists, by and large, until they go to school. So it could be that we live in this anomaly of not believing nature is conscious. And maybe psychedelics are teaching us something we’ve forgotten.As I said, I wanted to test this idea, and see whether there was conventional scientific evidence for it. And there’s fascinating work going on in a field that calls itself—in a rather cheeky way—plant neurobiology. These are people who fully realize there are no neurons in plants, but they’re trolling conventional botanists! And they’re doing experiments that are demonstrating that plants can learn and remember, which is kind of amazing: how do you store a memory without neurons? They’re finding plants that can solve problems, that can hear and see. In fact, they have 20 senses to our five or six. For example, a bean plant looking for something to twine, and given a pole within eight inches or so of it, knows where that pole is and will aim its spiraling reach at that pole. What is that about? Is it bouncing signals off of it?One of the spookiest things is the fact that the same anesthetics that put us out put plants out. You might think that plants are already out, but they’re not. They’re just slow. If you take a plant with a fast behavior, like a Venus flytrap, and give it an anesthetic, it will stop reacting. So you have to ask yourself, what is lost when the plant is anaesthetized? Some state of alertness, of awareness, of its environment, of reactivity. I’m not prepared to call that consciousness, but maybe it’s sentience—which is a simpler form of consciousness, and involves the ability to sense what’s going on in your environment and assess what’s good and bad for you and act appropriately. That may be a universal quality of life.AC: Let’s turn from plants to AI. You point out that LLMs are trained on the internet rather than direct interactions with reality. You put this really nicely when you say the internet is not the world so much as a shadow cast by the world. So LLMs are living in this kind of shadow world, or in Plato’s cave, as you put it. What’s the significance of this for AI consciousness and moral consideration? And, to recall the beginning of our conversation, if we’re stuck behind a veil or screen of consciousness, are we also stuck in a kind of shadow world?MP: I don’t think they’re the same shadow worlds because our world includes nature and other people. And even if it’s mediated in some ways... There is a reality out there, and we are in relation to it, through consciousness. There’s friction with it. What’s missing from the LLMs is that friction with the real world. There’s more to the world than human representation, which is what they’re dealing with. And that means that so far, AI is a cultural technology for combining thoughts we’ve already had. SUGGESTED VIEWING Cracking the code for thought With Roger Penrose, Sabrina Gonzalez Pasterski, Max Tegmark, Güneş Taylor Genuine creativity is more than collage. A lot of what AI does now is tantamount to collage, putting this with that and you know, that’s part of art, certainly. But there are also genuinely new ideas that come into the world that don’t come in through manipulating the representations we already have. So it remains to be seen whether AIs can be truly creative in that more radical sense.But my arguments against AI becoming conscious have to do with the fact that the idea of AI consciousness is based on this faulty metaphor that the brain is a computer. There are dimensions in which the brain is like a computer—it certainly does its share of computation. But computers have this sharp distinction between hardware and software, and brains don’t. In a brain, hardware and software are identical. Every memory is a physical change to the brain. Brains are not interchangeable in the way computers are. So this idea that you could take the consciousness out and somehow run it on another substrate, a silicon substrate, seems foolhardy.Anyway, it’s a more extended argument, and I may be wrong. And when we move to computers that aren’t based on silicon—neuromorphic computers and things like that—all bets may be off.AC: Regarding your point about LLMs being stuck in the world of our representations—the internet or whatever—and not being able to interact with reality, are these representations, the world of the internet, themselves part of reality? We’ve created the internet, but it’s still a real thing that exists. And so while the LLMs may be trapped within that part of reality, they’re nevertheless within reality and interacting with it and so on. So it’s not obvious that there’s a barrier there to them becoming conscious and being creative.MP: Yeah, I mean, if our consciousness is built out of human culture, which is what we’re talking about with all those representations. But I tend to think consciousness comes a bit more out of nature and friction with the natural world, but...AC: So there’s a fundamental divide between the natural world and human artefacts?MP: And we lose track of that, and especially people in this computer world. You know, the people who are creating these AI systems, my guess is they’ve been into video games since the age of three, and they didn’t go outside a lot. And their own contact with nature is somewhat limited. I could be wrong, it’d be a very interesting thing to ask, all the wizards of AI, whether they like to go fishing and hiking and do things like that. Or were they on computers from a very early age? I interviewed Blake Lemoine, the Google engineer who came to believe that LaMDA, the Google LLM out at the time, was conscious and deserved personhood. It was very clear that he didn’t see a distinction between this bubble in which he lived and the real world. And I think we’ve all been distanced from the natural world, and this is taking us even further away. But it’s still there, you know, and we still have bodies, and we’re still mortal, and we don’t live in a simulation.AC: I think that’s a great place to finish. Michael Pollan, thank you very much!
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